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Ah - that makes sense. I was wondering if the final version was going to use fewer chips and more integration or something like that.
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EdisonRex
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| EdisonRex wrote: | From the video I don't get exactly how you play it. Obviously there's a lot of buttons and the breath pipe. But for 4 grand sterling I think I'd want to look at it before I bought one.
All new instruments have a learning curve. This is no exception. It's interesting though. |
That was a quote from last October. I went down and had a demo of the thing today and put a deposit on one. I'll let you know what I think after delivery.
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| Nice. Have you got it for use with protools? If so I'm very interested in how it goes. |
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I don't know what to make of Mackie's invasion of Protools. While I dislike the way Digidesign makes Protools a closed system, part of me feels like it was a stoop to an unnecessarily low level on Mackie's part to break into another company's systems. While I'm all for open systems, I think Mackie would have more integrity to either create their own package or just not do this.
When Mackie made firewire cards for the original Onyx series, they claimed you could use two simultaneously. Man, the drivers were so fucked about doing this that they couldn't troubleshoot it, and they stopped supporting daisy-chaining as of their Windows Vista driver version. I always had to re-install my XP drivers every time I turned on my computer to get this to work. Interestingly enough, these firewire cards are supported by the libffado project for Linux, and these drivers have no trouble whatsoever using two together. I'm guessing it could do more than 2. WTG, Mackie. Someone else had to get your own product drivers right.
I'm very disappointed in Mackie. I will keep my two Onyx mixers, and I still think they make great hardware (or used to). But my opinion of them is on the decline. I'm not likely to buy new mixers from Mackie at this point. |
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DrJustice
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I'm following Andy's lead on this one 
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| BobTheDog wrote: | | Nice. Have you got it for use with protools? If so I'm very interested in how it goes. |
Mackie had a promotion for "free Pro Tools driver (normally $50) if you buy by May 31".
My bandmate is most comfortable with Pro Tools out of the major DAWs she tried (Audio Desk 2, which is really Digital Performer minus the MIDI and some silly limitations; Pro Tools LE, and Logic Studio  . However, she has been willing to give Logic a chance despite the unfamiliar interface.
I got Logic Studio 8 while she was living in another city, before she decided to move in with me and try reviving the band.
The option to work with Pro Tools without having to buy an audio interface made by Digidesign or M-Audio was, thus, a selling point. So far, the biggest issue she has had with Logic is not being able to easily fix recordings that have clipping distortion due to the input level (might be more the fault of the MOTU 828MkII or simple user error on both our parts...)
My Yamaha mixer is the one being replaced by the Mackie. Mic Input 1 is nonfunctional on that thing and the PA still pops loudly when cables are disconnected, even with the master volume all the way down. I wonder if I can sell the mixer for parts.
@audiodef - I am unclear as to the true story between Mackie and Avid/Digidesign. All I know is Loud Technologies (owner of Mackie) won a licensing agreement from Avid (owner of Digidesign). My wild speculation is that it is Avid who is behind a long term plan to move Pro Tools off of proprietary hardware.
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| GovernorSilver wrote: | | My wild speculation is that it is Avid who is behind a long term plan to move Pro Tools off of proprietary hardware. |
It looks like their users are way ahead of them. It's amazing how long that lock-in have been running.
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| DrJustice wrote: | | GovernorSilver wrote: | | My wild speculation is that it is Avid who is behind a long term plan to move Pro Tools off of proprietary hardware. |
It looks like their users are way ahead of them. It's amazing how long that lock-in have been running.
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I have the unfortunate displeasure of working fairly closely with Avid over the last 4 years or so, who in the past have been an absolute nightmare to work with due to the fact that everything needs to run on proprietary (Avid provided and profited from) hardware.
Avid make is as hard as possible to stop integration of other hardware/software with their systems, are amazingly aggressive, blame everyone else for their own problems and have amazingly good lawyers . The Digidesign model fell quite nicely into Avids business model, this is why they purchased them.
Avid have been having problems in that their "We are the Boss attitude" is beginning to wear a bit thin with many companies in the broadcast sector, many older editors still love avid because they see it as the "professional" solution, many younger editors don't give a shit about this, in the TV company I work for most of the "youth" programming and HD is edited using Final Cut Pro.
This combined with the fact that technical departments hate working with Avid systems has led to many broadcast companies beginning to look elsewhere for editing and content storage solutions.
So Avid are now saying that they want to be a more open company with the ability for other system integrators to integrate their hardware/software with their systems, if this is true I will eat my hat.
Avid have just purchased Blue Order an asset management system, they have done this not to integrate with existing asset management systems in the broadcast sector but to actually remove those systems and replace them with Blue Order which will play nicely with avid systems after some development. This is not integration with other systems it is replacing them with more Avid kit!
Buying Euphonix is another worrying thing (if you have one of their units like I do), Avid are promising to continue development of Euphonix to play nicely with other DAWs/NLEs but my bet is that the development will go in integration with avid editors and other development will be halted or even removed.
I am slightly biased though as I bloody hate Avid
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Korg Sound on Sound Recorder, as the line input on my Zoom H2 seems to have died
This has unlimited track recording, can do looping, timestretching, has onboard fx and built in microphones, so hopefully will be a good replacement
Will then use the H2 for ambient recordings as the microphones still work
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| modulator_esp wrote: | | Korg Sound on Sound Recorder |
Is it good? I have been thinking of getting one of these.
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| BobTheDog wrote: | | modulator_esp wrote: | | Korg Sound on Sound Recorder |
Is it good? I have been thinking of getting one of these.
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I'll let you know once I've had chance to play with it
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| Quote: | | because getting to the gig is pretty #%&@ing important... |
And an fn good choice to !!! I own two Magellans and love them !
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| DrJustice wrote: | I'm following Andy's lead on this one
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My most recent piece of gear will take a while to learn to use effectively:
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| Quote: | | I got mine today. This is an excellent instrument. |
This is one hell of a synthesizer !! Good luck with it. The virtual patching is just amazing and look at all those AUX outputs.
Here is my latest gear. I love this thing !!
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| ark wrote: | My most recent piece of gear will take a while to learn to use effectively:
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Ooh nice. I have a old 256 with orange leds. It's a marvellous piece of equipment. How do you plan to use it?
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| Antimon wrote: | Ooh nice. I have a old 256 with orange leds. It's a marvellous piece of equipment. How do you plan to use it?
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I too succumbed to the urges and got me one of them Origins. I probably shouldn't have, but after having played with it now for an hour or two I see no reason to feel regret.
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Welcome to the family!
You´ve aquired yourself an important piece of synth history. The Origin is a true classic.
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| The Arturia Origin sounds like the ultimate box that I've been looking for...realtime sequencing/playability + modular aspects of sound design. Stop the Gear Lust. I need some Tums...I thinking I'm getting GAS. |
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